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	<title>Comments on: RealID and WoW Forums: Classic Identity Design Mistake</title>
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	<description>Cyberspace. Virtual communities. Online games. Distributed systems.   Opinion, history, advice, and silliness from two guys who&#039;ve been building this stuff for a long, long time.</description>
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		<title>By: RealID, social networks, and introverts</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-341</link>
		<dc:creator>RealID, social networks, and introverts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can go read a good list of the RealID posts. If you want to know my take on things, you can read Randy Farmer&#8217;s insight based upon his numerous years of experience with identity and community. For a in-the-trenches view [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can go read a good list of the RealID posts. If you want to know my take on things, you can read Randy Farmer&#8217;s insight based upon his numerous years of experience with identity and community. For a in-the-trenches view [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Psychochild&#39;s Blog &#187; RealID, social networks, and introverts</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Psychochild&#39;s Blog &#187; RealID, social networks, and introverts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 07:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can go read a good list of the RealID posts. If you want to know my take on things, you can read Randy Farmer&#8217;s insight based upon his numerous years of experience with identity and community. For a in-the-trenches view [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can go read a good list of the RealID posts. If you want to know my take on things, you can read Randy Farmer&#8217;s insight based upon his numerous years of experience with identity and community. For a in-the-trenches view [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Culture Links: July 10th 2010 &#171; Tama Leaver dot Net</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Culture Links: July 10th 2010 &#171; Tama Leaver dot Net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 03:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RealID and WoW Forums: Classic Identity Design Mistake [Habitat Chronicles] - As Blizzard shift to a &#039;real names&#039; model for their forums, including all official World of Warcraft forums, many folks are unhappy. Blizzard are trying to get some users to be more responsible for their posts, but as Randy Farmer argues Blizzard haven&#039;t learnt from many, many identity-related mistakes in online fora of the past! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RealID and WoW Forums: Classic Identity Design Mistake [Habitat Chronicles] &#8211; As Blizzard shift to a &#39;real names&#39; model for their forums, including all official World of Warcraft forums, many folks are unhappy. Blizzard are trying to get some users to be more responsible for their posts, but as Randy Farmer argues Blizzard haven&#39;t learnt from many, many identity-related mistakes in online fora of the past! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Stabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post Randy, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post Randy, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 11:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So in the end, as you can&#039;t change first/last name in your account....
We would end up with new troll that will activate new account with false names from the beginning.... and keep trolling.
Any old user would leave forums if not leave completely the game.

Okey, now they changed their mind because &quot;they listen to us&quot;. I wonder how they needed 60 thousand messages just in one thread (not including deleted messages, and other threads in european forums and networks and blogs and so on...)

So much time before thinking a revert of their decisions is... is too much.
I wonder what they where thinking.

Also currently I don&#039;t want RealID and only option to me is to use parental control on myself?

For myself...
1) Starcraft preorder cancelled and I don&#039;t intend to buy it until after I see how all this ends up and before seeing how really this RealID stuff works. They reverted a decision but not the master plan.
2) WoW subscription will be kept closed until there is a better method to disable RealID. I know there is a workaround but why I do need to go thru circus hops like a monkey to disable something is in my right?

You need a lot of time to gain trust.
You need only tiny fraction of that time to loose it all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So in the end, as you can&#8217;t change first/last name in your account&#8230;.<br />
We would end up with new troll that will activate new account with false names from the beginning&#8230;. and keep trolling.<br />
Any old user would leave forums if not leave completely the game.</p>
<p>Okey, now they changed their mind because &#8220;they listen to us&#8221;. I wonder how they needed 60 thousand messages just in one thread (not including deleted messages, and other threads in european forums and networks and blogs and so on&#8230;)</p>
<p>So much time before thinking a revert of their decisions is&#8230; is too much.<br />
I wonder what they where thinking.</p>
<p>Also currently I don&#8217;t want RealID and only option to me is to use parental control on myself?</p>
<p>For myself&#8230;<br />
1) Starcraft preorder cancelled and I don&#8217;t intend to buy it until after I see how all this ends up and before seeing how really this RealID stuff works. They reverted a decision but not the master plan.<br />
2) WoW subscription will be kept closed until there is a better method to disable RealID. I know there is a workaround but why I do need to go thru circus hops like a monkey to disable something is in my right?</p>
<p>You need a lot of time to gain trust.<br />
You need only tiny fraction of that time to loose it all</p>
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		<title>By: Cameron</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-308</link>
		<dc:creator>Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Blizzard changed their minds about real names on the forums. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968987278&amp;sid=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Blizzard changed their minds about real names on the forums. <a href="http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968987278&amp;sid=1" rel="nofollow">http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968987278&amp;sid=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Why I object to RealID &#171; Citizen Azeroth</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-306</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I object to RealID &#171; Citizen Azeroth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] article about the experience of Usenet/Netnews back in the day points out that such pressure didn&#8217;t work then and it very likely won&#8217;t work now [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] article about the experience of Usenet/Netnews back in the day points out that such pressure didn&#8217;t work then and it very likely won&#8217;t work now [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blizzard &#38; Internet Privacy: Part 2 (plus, how I was fake-twittered)</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-305</link>
		<dc:creator>Blizzard &#38; Internet Privacy: Part 2 (plus, how I was fake-twittered)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] via Habitat Chronicles: RealID and WoW Forums: Classic Identity Design Mistake. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] via Habitat Chronicles: RealID and WoW Forums: Classic Identity Design Mistake. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NONOBADKITTY!</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator>NONOBADKITTY!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 04:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiosity I went to my Battlenet account to change my billing information (I don&#039;t have a currently active subscription to any of their games.) I found out I can change my credit card information, my address/phone number but not my name. Great. I officially hate Blizzard now. Thankfully it looks like it only shows your real name to the whole world if you post on the forums, which I will never do (and I don&#039;t think I ever have.) As for kids, their FAQ says parents can disable forum access for their kids but how many parents will even know to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity I went to my Battlenet account to change my billing information (I don&#8217;t have a currently active subscription to any of their games.) I found out I can change my credit card information, my address/phone number but not my name. Great. I officially hate Blizzard now. Thankfully it looks like it only shows your real name to the whole world if you post on the forums, which I will never do (and I don&#8217;t think I ever have.) As for kids, their FAQ says parents can disable forum access for their kids but how many parents will even know to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: RealID linkspam. &#124; Azeroth. Me.</title>
		<link>http://habitatchronicles.com/2010/07/realid-and-wow-forums-classic-identity-design-mistake/comment-page-1/#comment-303</link>
		<dc:creator>RealID linkspam. &#124; Azeroth. Me.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] RealID and WoW Forums: Classic Identity Design Mistake The idea Blizzard has is a common initial misconception – that people will “play nice” if they have to show their real names to each other. I’m sure they are using Facebook as an example – I often do this in my consulting practice. There is no doubt that Facebook users are better behaved in general than their YouTube counterparts, but the error Blizzard made is to assume that their player relationships are like those of Facebook. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] RealID and WoW Forums: Classic Identity Design Mistake The idea Blizzard has is a common initial misconception – that people will “play nice” if they have to show their real names to each other. I’m sure they are using Facebook as an example – I often do this in my consulting practice. There is no doubt that Facebook users are better behaved in general than their YouTube counterparts, but the error Blizzard made is to assume that their player relationships are like those of Facebook. [...]</p>
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